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		<title>By: Biking In Dallas &#187; The Preston Ridge Trail and the Far North Dallas Corridor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biking In Dallas &#187; The Preston Ridge Trail and the Far North Dallas Corridor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richardson Biking Gets A Mention With DMN &#171; Bike Friendly Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richardson Biking Gets A Mention With DMN &#171; Bike Friendly Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The DMN article gives mention to the new bike lanes on Grove and Custer. They also quote our friend Chris Curnutt, with Biking In Dallas who wrote a great article about the Dallas trail network. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The DMN article gives mention to the new bike lanes on Grove and Custer. They also quote our friend Chris Curnutt, with Biking In Dallas who wrote a great article about the Dallas trail network. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas Bike Trail Network &#171; bibliosk8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallas Bike Trail Network &#171; bibliosk8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bike Trail&#160;Network February 5, 2010   Here is a good article on the bike trail network in Dallas, from a new blog called Biking in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the Dallas Bike Trail Network &#171; Concrete Lunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Dallas Bike Trail Network &#171; Concrete Lunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dallas Bike Trail&#160;Network February 5, 2010 Posted by bibliosk8 in bikes.  trackback  Here is a good article on the bike trail network in Dallas, from a new blog called Biking in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ann Premazon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Premazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! Looks like biking in Dallas is Awesome!</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Curnutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Curnutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I re-read our bike lane descriptions in the article, and in the interest of accuracy I modified some of the narrative above.  

-Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I re-read our bike lane descriptions in the article, and in the interest of accuracy I modified some of the narrative above.  </p>
<p>-Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article. A few points.  

Tremendous expense is one the drawbacks to both Bike Paths and Bike Lanes and a reason why these projects are so slow to mature.  Katy Trail can continue to develop because it has been able to draw on considerable funds from commercial interests in the surrounding neighborhoods who see the trail as an asset (and it is an asset as well for the Dallas Area).  Likewise, I believe, for Trinity Strand and the rapidly developing Design District.  

Another major expense in trail building is crossing major roads, freeways, rivers and the like.  The Cottonwood Trail has the advantage that the underpass at the LBJ/Central interchange was put in place at the same time as the interchange, a tremendous cost advantage.  At the same time, the Katy Trail stops at Central because of a perceived need for a dedicated overpass.  The current plan shows the use of an existing bridge at McCommas, a very functional arrangement, in my opinion, and one I use regularly, but not a dedicated bike way.  Likewise, the Trinity River and I-35 are awesome obstacles to both the Trinity Strand and a county wide network.  

The plan will include both on and off road routes for the very reason that it is not practical to re-do the current system.  Takes to long and is too expensive and needs will change again in the future.  Planners are always forced to use what is already there.           

This bridge illustrates the reason for using exiting roadways-- few people live on a bike lane and/or travel to a destination next to a bike lane.  Call it the &quot;last mile&quot; problem, to borrow from the telecomm industry.  To get to the trail, a cyclist will either have to ride on the road or worse, take a car there and park.  To take a car defeats the purpose, in some sense, to transportation infrastructure.  Bike riding becomes purely recreational.  And nothing against recreation.

Planners are well aware of this issue.  One of the goals of the bike plan is to bridge the &quot;last mile&quot; gap between the bike network and the DART network.   You will see some major work to facilitate bike access to Mockingbird DART Station via Katy, but it will be over Mockingbird Lane, not Central. 

Many cyclists are also well aware of the last mile problem, and it is one that kills any purely off-road or segregated plan.  So, they work to improved conditions on the road and just ride on the road.  In that sense, it the nature of their preference.  

For myself, I do not ride on all roads, nor avoid all roads, but plan a route I feel safe on and it might include a trail.  I am certain this is a common attitude and one that gets lost in the discussion.  But admittedly, this attitude draws few new cyclists.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. A few points.  </p>
<p>Tremendous expense is one the drawbacks to both Bike Paths and Bike Lanes and a reason why these projects are so slow to mature.  Katy Trail can continue to develop because it has been able to draw on considerable funds from commercial interests in the surrounding neighborhoods who see the trail as an asset (and it is an asset as well for the Dallas Area).  Likewise, I believe, for Trinity Strand and the rapidly developing Design District.  </p>
<p>Another major expense in trail building is crossing major roads, freeways, rivers and the like.  The Cottonwood Trail has the advantage that the underpass at the LBJ/Central interchange was put in place at the same time as the interchange, a tremendous cost advantage.  At the same time, the Katy Trail stops at Central because of a perceived need for a dedicated overpass.  The current plan shows the use of an existing bridge at McCommas, a very functional arrangement, in my opinion, and one I use regularly, but not a dedicated bike way.  Likewise, the Trinity River and I-35 are awesome obstacles to both the Trinity Strand and a county wide network.  </p>
<p>The plan will include both on and off road routes for the very reason that it is not practical to re-do the current system.  Takes to long and is too expensive and needs will change again in the future.  Planners are always forced to use what is already there.           </p>
<p>This bridge illustrates the reason for using exiting roadways&#8211; few people live on a bike lane and/or travel to a destination next to a bike lane.  Call it the &#8220;last mile&#8221; problem, to borrow from the telecomm industry.  To get to the trail, a cyclist will either have to ride on the road or worse, take a car there and park.  To take a car defeats the purpose, in some sense, to transportation infrastructure.  Bike riding becomes purely recreational.  And nothing against recreation.</p>
<p>Planners are well aware of this issue.  One of the goals of the bike plan is to bridge the &#8220;last mile&#8221; gap between the bike network and the DART network.   You will see some major work to facilitate bike access to Mockingbird DART Station via Katy, but it will be over Mockingbird Lane, not Central. </p>
<p>Many cyclists are also well aware of the last mile problem, and it is one that kills any purely off-road or segregated plan.  So, they work to improved conditions on the road and just ride on the road.  In that sense, it the nature of their preference.  </p>
<p>For myself, I do not ride on all roads, nor avoid all roads, but plan a route I feel safe on and it might include a trail.  I am certain this is a common attitude and one that gets lost in the discussion.  But admittedly, this attitude draws few new cyclists.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Curnutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Curnutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, you bring up an important distinction.  The on-street bikes lanes in Richardson are indeed shared with parked cars/trucks and any vehicle making a right hand turn.  So if you ride them you do indeed have to be watchful of vehicles making a right hand turn and also any that are parked along the curb.  I&#039;ve ridden the one in Canyon Creek and navigating the few parked cars and/or the occasional vehicle making a right hand turn was a non-issue for me, then again I was riding during non-peak hours.  But you&#039;re right, calling them &quot;dedicated&quot; is not entirely accurate on my part.  I was mainly wanting to give a brief snapshot of their efforts.

Eventually we plan to do a full write up of the bike lanes in Richardson and we&#039;ll discuss in detail then.  Suburban Assault was the first local blog to discover them.  They wrote about their experience &lt;a href=&quot;http://suburbanassault.org/2009/09/10/richardson-texas-bike-lanes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if Bike Friendly Richardson hosts a group ride at some point that includes one or both of their bike lanes.  Thanks for your comments!

I&#039;ll do a more precise description in the future, scout&#039;s honor.

ps: Thank you Margie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, you bring up an important distinction.  The on-street bikes lanes in Richardson are indeed shared with parked cars/trucks and any vehicle making a right hand turn.  So if you ride them you do indeed have to be watchful of vehicles making a right hand turn and also any that are parked along the curb.  I&#8217;ve ridden the one in Canyon Creek and navigating the few parked cars and/or the occasional vehicle making a right hand turn was a non-issue for me, then again I was riding during non-peak hours.  But you&#8217;re right, calling them &#8220;dedicated&#8221; is not entirely accurate on my part.  I was mainly wanting to give a brief snapshot of their efforts.</p>
<p>Eventually we plan to do a full write up of the bike lanes in Richardson and we&#8217;ll discuss in detail then.  Suburban Assault was the first local blog to discover them.  They wrote about their experience <a href="http://suburbanassault.org/2009/09/10/richardson-texas-bike-lanes/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Bike Friendly Richardson hosts a group ride at some point that includes one or both of their bike lanes.  Thanks for your comments!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do a more precise description in the future, scout&#8217;s honor.</p>
<p>ps: Thank you Margie!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great overview of the past, present, and future of bicycle infrastructure in Dallas!

I think it is a little inaccurate, however, to describe the new bike lanes in Richardson as &quot;dedicated&quot;.  They are actually shared bike/parking/turning lanes.

BTW, I&#039;ve noticed that Google Maps has recently added some of the Dallas bike trails.  I just wish there was a way to better highlight them or a &quot;use trails&quot; option when getting directions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great overview of the past, present, and future of bicycle infrastructure in Dallas!</p>
<p>I think it is a little inaccurate, however, to describe the new bike lanes in Richardson as &#8220;dedicated&#8221;.  They are actually shared bike/parking/turning lanes.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;ve noticed that Google Maps has recently added some of the Dallas bike trails.  I just wish there was a way to better highlight them or a &#8220;use trails&#8221; option when getting directions.</p>
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		<title>By: Margie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, this is so interesting.  Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, this is so interesting.  Great article.</p>
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